There's no pitch. [He's less worried about the guy coming after him than he is about him coming after Sarah to get to him, or something.
But the question gives him pause, and there's silence for a moment on Joel's end, because the last thing he expected from this guy was that. Concern for his kid? Concern for the child of the man who was prepared to kill him?]
[ Jesse knows men like this, or he thinks he does. They turn it on and off whenever it benefits them the most. No pitch?
Not what he expected either. He muses on that for a second, thinks on what the definition of real bad people must be for this man. He knows some real bad people and he counts himself among them; he's killed before, too.
But some innocent little girl, crying at the sight of her father with blood on his hands, he can't get that image out of his head. She has to live with that now. They both do. ]
Good. I-- [ He halts, a sigh stopping him for a moment. He doesn't need to work hard to be totally sincere, because he is. ] I mean, I would never hurt a little kid. For like, revenge. So you don't gotta worry about that, if that's what this is about.
[Yeah, it's a little surprising. Some people draw those lines, but not everyone does, in his experience.
There are two kinds of people in Joel's world: those who do what they have to do, like him, to survive, and those who enjoy it. The ones who use the necessity as an excuse to hurt and take pleasure in the act.
He rarely thinks in terms of 'good' and 'evil', but he doesn't kid himself that there are monsters with human faces. Maybe this guy isn't one of them, though.]
Alright, then. That's all. You don't have to worry about me, either. [Since they can't exactly go their separate ways and expect to never see each other again. Haven isn't like that. Inevitably, they'll see each other again. Probably often.]
[ Jesse sounds a bit like a kid himself now, worrying at his lower lip in real time. Yao messing with their memories -- it could happen to him someday, he knows. ]
It was like you were trying to, uh, find someone, or protect someone.
[ His first guess had been Sarah, but later, after the shock wore off, he caught on that she didn't match the description; red hair, green eyes, cusses a lot. Something like that. He wonders if he'll be indulged or brushed off, if the dude really means it when he says that he's sorry and owes Jesse an explanation.
[That at least is true. Joel isn't a talker by nature - sometimes he'll lie to protect someone, or lie by omittance, but when he says something directly, when he offers something up, he always means it.]
Like I said, I thought I was somewhere else. I thought someone I cared about was in trouble. I don't do that stuff for fun.
[ Okay. Well. That just brings up a whole host a new questions, such as: what the fuck kinda life you lead where that's part of your routine? ]
But you're pretty good at it.
[ He feels like he's earned that one, so he lets out some nasty undertones with it. What he says next is less sarcastic and more curious. ]
Must be some real bad people you were with.
[ A beat. He's right, after all, that it's a small population at Haven. They'll run into each other again and they need to know where they stand with each other after this. ]
Well, Joel, I'd say you owe me one and leave it at that.
[ Sincere apologies and explanations are actually much more than he expected to get, so Jesse tries it, because he might as well. Pushing his luck? Why not. His world ain't a nice place, but neither is Haven. Guys like this are useful in a tough spot.
So he buries whatever anger he's got for the opportunity of doing business. It's not like this is the first time he's almost died. ]
[ Yeah, he can imagine the things Joel has been called. ]
I'd be a dick to do that.
[ He swings back, effortlessly, more honestly. There's more commentary he could add, tactless and stupid commentary, but he decides to be careful. Not to mention, Joel is actually being sincere.
God, that's almost more off-putting than the drive-by stabbing. He's so normal now, polite and measured. Offering help. ]
She seemed, uh, pretty scared. I ain't gonna make it worse on her, man.
voice;
But the question gives him pause, and there's silence for a moment on Joel's end, because the last thing he expected from this guy was that. Concern for his kid? Concern for the child of the man who was prepared to kill him?]
...She's fine.
voice;
Not what he expected either. He muses on that for a second, thinks on what the definition of real bad people must be for this man. He knows some real bad people and he counts himself among them; he's killed before, too.
But some innocent little girl, crying at the sight of her father with blood on his hands, he can't get that image out of his head. She has to live with that now. They both do. ]
Good. I-- [ He halts, a sigh stopping him for a moment. He doesn't need to work hard to be totally sincere, because he is. ] I mean, I would never hurt a little kid. For like, revenge. So you don't gotta worry about that, if that's what this is about.
voice;
There are two kinds of people in Joel's world: those who do what they have to do, like him, to survive, and those who enjoy it. The ones who use the necessity as an excuse to hurt and take pleasure in the act.
He rarely thinks in terms of 'good' and 'evil', but he doesn't kid himself that there are monsters with human faces. Maybe this guy isn't one of them, though.]
Alright, then. That's all. You don't have to worry about me, either. [Since they can't exactly go their separate ways and expect to never see each other again. Haven isn't like that. Inevitably, they'll see each other again. Probably often.]
voice;
[ Jesse sounds a bit like a kid himself now, worrying at his lower lip in real time. Yao messing with their memories -- it could happen to him someday, he knows. ]
It was like you were trying to, uh, find someone, or protect someone.
[ His first guess had been Sarah, but later, after the shock wore off, he caught on that she didn't match the description; red hair, green eyes, cusses a lot. Something like that. He wonders if he'll be indulged or brushed off, if the dude really means it when he says that he's sorry and owes Jesse an explanation.
In his experience, they usually don't. ]
voice;
[That at least is true. Joel isn't a talker by nature - sometimes he'll lie to protect someone, or lie by omittance, but when he says something directly, when he offers something up, he always means it.]
Like I said, I thought I was somewhere else. I thought someone I cared about was in trouble. I don't do that stuff for fun.
voice;
But you're pretty good at it.
[ He feels like he's earned that one, so he lets out some nasty undertones with it. What he says next is less sarcastic and more curious. ]
Must be some real bad people you were with.
[ A beat. He's right, after all, that it's a small population at Haven. They'll run into each other again and they need to know where they stand with each other after this. ]
It's Jesse, by the way. My name.
voice;
[He pauses, rubbing at the back of his neck.]
Joel.
voice;
[ Sincere apologies and explanations are actually much more than he expected to get, so Jesse tries it, because he might as well. Pushing his luck? Why not. His world ain't a nice place, but neither is Haven. Guys like this are useful in a tough spot.
So he buries whatever anger he's got for the opportunity of doing business. It's not like this is the first time he's almost died. ]
Sound fair?
voice;
[He only does his own.]
voice;
I dunno what I need yet, so I guess we'll see. [ Pause. ] Can't blame me for tryin', can ya?
voice;
We're all stuck here. We gotta help each other out.
[Which god, that sounds ridiculous coming from him, but it's just the truth of their situation.]
voice;
It doesn't matter. [ But, but. ] I might ask, though. Someday. You'd be a dick to say no.
[ Humor! ]
voice;
Well, all right, anyway. Thanks. For not... takin' it out on Sarah.
voice;
I'd be a dick to do that.
[ He swings back, effortlessly, more honestly. There's more commentary he could add, tactless and stupid commentary, but he decides to be careful. Not to mention, Joel is actually being sincere.
God, that's almost more off-putting than the drive-by stabbing. He's so normal now, polite and measured. Offering help. ]
She seemed, uh, pretty scared. I ain't gonna make it worse on her, man.
voice;
Well. Okay then. She's fine, she just... She's fine.
[Annnd he hangs up, because a w k w a r d.]